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- 2024-05-31 - Created this note
- 2024-06-09 - Added a post “End of the myth of rational public discourse - The example of climate change”
- 2024-10-30 - Added a post about an Essay by Andrew Dana Hudson suggesting that dreaming about space is not dead, but has to change and incorporate the current situation
- 2024-11-23 - Added an observation about swiftness or quickness as annoying to me, because I only believe in slow change
- 2024-11-25 - Added another non-acceptance answer to the turn: Fuck You Optimism
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All this is to say that: We will have to live with it. We will have to accept climate change. We won’t be able to stop the catastrophe. All the displaced people. All the pain and suffering. All the biodiversity loss.
What is interesting though, is that fossil fuels won’t last forever and the world’s overindulgence in a surplus of energy that is not bound to the solar energy system (as opposed to the fossil energy system that spurred much of industrialization) is inevitable. We will not live to see this, but we also won’t stop the shit show until then. The planet will go through this. I don’t see how it wouldn’t.
- The Fatalistic Turn
- The main article for this topic. It tries to give some reasons why we won’t stop climate change. At all.
The following are part of this thread in my thinking, either by being material for arguments within that main post or by using parts of that main post to argue in some way or another for or against something else.
- Thoughts on “Manifesto for a Humane Web”
- Vulnerable Thoughts Around LLMS and generative AI
- Is There A 3,5% Rule For The Web?
- A Rational Case For Protest
- Thoughts on “Takes spread like wildfire”
- End of the myth of rational public discourse - The example of climate change
An early example of my stance against hoping for large-scale change of society:
Non-Acceptance Answers
Myth Making
It seems to me that one way forward is taking a longe duree view and invest into myth making:
Fuck You Optimism
Another option is a kind of optimism that is being optimistic in a way that is defiant, mad and basically saying “oh yeah?! well fuck you, I’m gonna do this thing anyways!”
Urgency Fallacy
I think because societal or even planetary change will come - if ever - only very slowly, that any insinuation that we have to act quickly and on a grand scale is an insult to me: